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Does Art Program define the artist? (rant)

Journal Entry: Wed Nov 28, 2012, 2:39 PM




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I was on tumblr in class today (Macro Economics LOL) and I stumbled across a particular post in the Artist Confession blog about how Photoshop is not 'intended' for art/drawing and was pushing that artists who use this tool are misguided etc etc yadda yadda.  The comments were pretty backlash filled, but I wanted to post a journal concerning it as I have come across alot of artists (including old Idols I've had who have said time and time again that PS is 'not a legit means' of making good digital art/painting/etc and other tools like Corel Painter, SAI, and Illustrator are."  Here's the deal, in case any of you are under the impression that you can only create art using the tools designed for the job or specific task of doing so:

Program function is largely irrelevant when it comes to digital art.  Yeah, I said it.  Yeah sure, Adobe might advertise that 'Photoshop is designed to work with photos (hence the name) and that it isnt really designed for digital painting/art/etc, and that other programs are designed for such, or your art teacher might say 'digital programs like photoshop aren't legitimate means of creating works of art for the sake of the traditionalism in art that they staunchly believe in.  PROGRAM does not and never will define the artist or the quality of their work.  I have seen spectacular works of art on dA, done in programs ranging from MS PAINT to Microsoft Excel, or even traditional mediums going from candlewax to barbeque sauce.  If you have the creativity, what the hell does it matter if some program is intended for a different purpose than you are using it?  YOU define the creativity, YOU define how things are used.  If you can make something fantastic using something unorthodox or unconventional means, what art teacher or person is able to tell you otherwise?  Yeah people will have opinion on what defines art, but that's your job, and if they don't agree with your methods of creating it because it seems 'illegitimate', then so be it.  

(end rant because I'm leaving class.)

You and your own creativity define your art, not the program, or the media.

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~LunarMew Dec 1, 2012  Student General Artist
It's strange how people usually don't notice that you can make artwork out of anything. You don't have to pay attention to what a label says to know if the tool being used is for art or not. If people can make artwork with ketchup, I can make artwork with Photoshop.

"Ooooh! Look at me! I'm drawing commissioned art with a non-art program!"

Now picture that scenario. Do you think the person paying you to draw something will care what program you use to create the artwork? No, not really. That person just want a pretty picture done. So if that person is satisfied with the end result and doesn't care what you use (aside whether it should be a digital/traditional painting or in vector style or something) then why should the artist? The person paying just wants a specific type of art done in ANY WAY necessary. The people who bug you when you use the "wrong" tools are usually your professors, like you mentioned, but that's about it. I remember how I got yelled at for not using a specific tool in Adobe Illustrator during class, but even with that I still don't use it when making client work because I never needed it. I doubt the client even gives a shit. If the way I do vector art is efficient and it makes the client happy then I don't need that feature that my art professor made me do.

Now here is the kicker. It is true that if you work in a building the art director might look over your shoulder, and if that person has any art experience, they might also tell you that you are using the wrong tools. However, what are the chances that the art director's "correct" tools are the same as the art teacher's "correct" tools? Sometimes they might be similar but the thing is that when working in a studio, your boss will just try to shape you to do things his or her way. In this case the art teacher's "right" way might not matter anymore.
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=AlsatianReaper Nov 30, 2012  Professional Writer
Well, I'll be damned...I could never really use Any of the digital Art Program (I don't know what to call them personally...^^;) but you're making a strong and valid point right here! Though I may start on GIMP or Paint SAI one day, I'll always keep your words close to mind.

To put it this way, you made me realize that it's high time to get into the groove or I'm gonna get left behind...^^; you could probably tell with my art that I haven't made step one towards the D.A. Kingdom...
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*sonazefan101 Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh my gosh, I need to show this to my friend, like now. I cant stand her complaining and I almost wanna believe that she thinks she cant make good art without having damn photoshop. I was so sick of her complaining when she used Gimp, it was horrible.

Dude you literally just made my day. I mean I actually prefer SAI over photoshop honestly, it gets what I want done, and I like all the different tools it provides. Ive also seen like AMAZING work done by people with MS paint, I mean really?

I love this, this just makes me smile honestly.
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*cat-meff Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
i can't believe that we still need to discuss this matter.
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*OyOy Nov 29, 2012  Student
The richest artist in the world made a piece that was a square canvas colored black, using nothing but dead flies.

I guess no one told the poor guy we have paint for that sort of thing.
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~SonicWolvelina99 Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It all depends on how one uses their toosl. While I do admit that PhotoShop may not exactly be the best program to make digital art with and that there are many other programs out there that are better than Photoshop, it does not necesserally mean you're a bad artist because you use that program. Besides, some people have to resort to certain programs because of either financial benefit (which is, most of the time, the top problem nowadays), they have everything they need on that program or it's simply more comfortable for them to use.

If you can master Corel Painter, good for you. If you can master PhotoShop, good for you. If you can master MS Paint, good for you. (Though I'd probably have more respect for the person who uses MS Paint. That's just my opinion.)
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=snouken Nov 29, 2012  Student Digital Artist
True c:
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~DragonGirl787 Nov 29, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Very well said =)
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*SEMC Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Actually, I kinda agree. See, its not artists shouldn't use tools outside of their craft. The problem stems from programs forcing PS as the only professional and real tool. And its not designed to be this all in one tool. Its a crippling handicap that for some reason art programs, professors, students, and artists hold up as some kind of accomplishment. Congrats, you all learned how to paint with one hand while on a unicycle. No really, that's a kick ass feat. But its not necessary to do that to become an artist. Just as most traditional art programs start you off with pencils and charcoal, the basics need to come first before the flashy display of using say drilled out holes in a plank of wood while dual wielding spray paint. Sure, it works, but its only really significant when they've mastered the basics. Instead we have an entire generation of crippled one handed ball balancing unicycle riding lunatics calling themselves artists because they learned how to do one trick without really understanding why the original digital artists were doing this in the first place. L2ART

Peace.
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~thegrayabyss Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Artists who are able to use tools not meant for making art (or even unconventional means) just tells people that you had enough creativity to improvise with the tools you had in hand. They're mostly jealous, or hell, even intimidated you were able to use something that 'just worked very well'. It kinda reminds me of how a lot of people look down on MS paint, when in reality, I watch someone who does some of the most amazing things with it. There's quite a few art teachers out there who think just because they have a degree means they can be an absolute prick about a wonderful piece of art just because it 'was made in an unorthodox program', and give infinite praise to a mediocore drawing made in Corel.
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